Operation: The Dan Method (Getting Dan Vs Revived: Phase II)
Mar 15, 2021 16:54:13 GMT -7
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Post by Captain Jerk on Mar 15, 2021 16:54:13 GMT -7
Hello. This is a somewhat rushed post I've made to clarify what's going on. I really SHOULD make a video on this (along with a forum introduction video for reasons I'll explain shortly), but for now this will do. If you want to help with that, that would be great.
After about 6 weeks of information blackout and supplying Dan with art to use, I received info from Mandel and Pearson, straight from Angel himself.
HBOMax is showing some degree of interest, that's looking like a really good option right now. That's good, they were our ideal choice.
Bad news is, due to....I'm just gonna be frank, major shortfalls and far far lower channel involvement then originally planned (We ended up with 5 people on, one of whom got delayed and still hasn't posted their vid. I originally intended over a dozen involved for a far bigger campaign), Best Served Immediately did not get the quantity of people involved that are needed to make HBOMax feel safe in this investment.
Another issue was things got a bit too spread out, which I plain partially on an initial set of faulty links that took a while to fix and some badly timed bot failures.
I did however, get some useful info on the best places to focus.
HBOMax, wants, numbers. Big numbers. And I know EXACTLY where we have to show them.
1. Here, the Dan Vs Forum.
This is the first step. Discord, as nice as it is, is not in the minds of executives, it's a site Angel and the other industry men have never even heard of, it's not something on their shortlist. You know what is? Dedicated Fansites, the backbone of fandoms since the 90s. And this is ours. (Fun Fact: This is usually near the top of the 1st page for Dan Vs without search algorithim alteration, most often 3rd down.)
While the numbers will probably be smaller, showing a shit load of people on a highly dedicated site (the 'whales' who would probably breed alot of free publicity and buy merch) is a huge sign the number of silent fans is larger.
Our target here: 500 members.
This is way lower then the others, but it's actually quite reasonable. OP-BSE got us up about 55 members, from 196 - 250. The most important thing on this site in paticular is quality. I need all of you active here, daily at least, and I need more people here in general.
2. The Official Show FaceBook
www.facebook.com/danvsshow
This is the first of the ones run not by me, but by Daniel Mandel, the creator himself. Number wise, this is the only one that's really already in 'steady range', with 11.5 k followers. Getting it up to 12k would be nice, as would be more comments, but this front is mostly ok, it's really just a gateway to the next front.
Our target here: 12 thousand - 15 thousand followers total.
3. Daniel Mandel's Instagram
www.instagram.com/danvsyou/
This is an extremely recent development. It's the reason he's begun a fanart bombardment to appeal to everyone from tumblr furries to 4chan coomers, to get the images he needs to keep the crosslinked Instagram running. There USED to be a crosslinked twitter as well, but it died in April 2019(shortly before I showed up, around the time I was planning to leave the Daria Fandom)so that's not relevant her.e
Intagram is a site that's been closely monitored by corporate folks for several years, and it's no surprise. It's been a big deal the last decade. Dan Mandel should be able to do alot of the leg work here.
Target: 1500 followers.
4. Dan Vs Fanzone Deviantart
www.deviantart.com/dan-vs-fanzone
Deviantart is another one well known by the industry, it was referenced in the original Dan Vs for gods sake. Now, this one is somewhat tricky, because there are ALOT of mostly dead Dan Vs groups from back in the day. But again, in MOST contexts we want one place to focus on, and so the Dan Vs Fanzone linked here is our main target. Submitting art and getting members is important.
Target: ~1000 Members.
5. Twitter. Fucking everything
(but this first twitter.com/VsJerk )
Twitter is the other big one, but unlike DA or Forums or Discord, where you kinda need to gather in one place to get the numbers up, following someone just requires a click. As such, while I encourage you to go to my Fandom Twitter first and foremost.....this is basically just a wildwest. IF IT HAS DAN VS, FOLLOW IT. SOMEONE HAS A DAN VS PFP, FOLLOW IT. ACCOUNT BEEN DEAD FOR 5 YEARS? FOLLOW IT. SOMEONE MENTIONED DAN VS? FOLLOW IT! YOU GET A FOLLOW, YOU GET A FOLLOW, LITERALLY EVERYTHING VAGUELY DAN VS RELATED GETS A FOLLOW! GET THOSE STONKS UP!
Target: 15k for Dan Vs Centric accounts, just boost the most vaguely connected things.
SECONDARY TARGETS
While those are the most important to focus on, there are a few good secondary targets to consider if you want more.
1. Tiktok: One of the Fandom members has a pretty solid one going, uh, that one I guess. vm.tiktok.com/ZMeB5A6NU/
2. Youtube: My Channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCC5JXdaGVXGQDYhLt0HNflQ , and also maybe some of the clip compilation channels and channels that were involved in Phase 1 like Otterpop.
3. Google Trends. GOOGLE DAN VS. GOOGLE IT. SAME IDEA AS THE TWITTER SHIT GOOGLE EVERY COMBINATION OF DAN VS AND SHOW RELATED TERMS YOU CAN!
And of course, everywhere helps. Tumblr ) , Discord ( discord.gg/FtrGgnf ) , 4chan, anywhere, but based on the info provided to me the main targets are our best bet.
DEADLINES:
TECHNICALLY, we don't have one. In practice though, we needed these numbers weeks ago. I know having a deadline motivates people...so....May 6th(the second annual Fandom Day) is the absolute latest. Angel and co can't hold off forever. There's always the possibility it works anyway, but we really gotta pump this shit up for it to work.
I'll try to get a video on this subject out soonish to help spread the word, but I think you get the gist of it.
After about 6 weeks of information blackout and supplying Dan with art to use, I received info from Mandel and Pearson, straight from Angel himself.
HBOMax is showing some degree of interest, that's looking like a really good option right now. That's good, they were our ideal choice.
Bad news is, due to....I'm just gonna be frank, major shortfalls and far far lower channel involvement then originally planned (We ended up with 5 people on, one of whom got delayed and still hasn't posted their vid. I originally intended over a dozen involved for a far bigger campaign), Best Served Immediately did not get the quantity of people involved that are needed to make HBOMax feel safe in this investment.
Another issue was things got a bit too spread out, which I plain partially on an initial set of faulty links that took a while to fix and some badly timed bot failures.
I did however, get some useful info on the best places to focus.
HBOMax, wants, numbers. Big numbers. And I know EXACTLY where we have to show them.
1. Here, the Dan Vs Forum.
This is the first step. Discord, as nice as it is, is not in the minds of executives, it's a site Angel and the other industry men have never even heard of, it's not something on their shortlist. You know what is? Dedicated Fansites, the backbone of fandoms since the 90s. And this is ours. (Fun Fact: This is usually near the top of the 1st page for Dan Vs without search algorithim alteration, most often 3rd down.)
While the numbers will probably be smaller, showing a shit load of people on a highly dedicated site (the 'whales' who would probably breed alot of free publicity and buy merch) is a huge sign the number of silent fans is larger.
Our target here: 500 members.
This is way lower then the others, but it's actually quite reasonable. OP-BSE got us up about 55 members, from 196 - 250. The most important thing on this site in paticular is quality. I need all of you active here, daily at least, and I need more people here in general.
2. The Official Show FaceBook
www.facebook.com/danvsshow
This is the first of the ones run not by me, but by Daniel Mandel, the creator himself. Number wise, this is the only one that's really already in 'steady range', with 11.5 k followers. Getting it up to 12k would be nice, as would be more comments, but this front is mostly ok, it's really just a gateway to the next front.
Our target here: 12 thousand - 15 thousand followers total.
3. Daniel Mandel's Instagram
www.instagram.com/danvsyou/
This is an extremely recent development. It's the reason he's begun a fanart bombardment to appeal to everyone from tumblr furries to 4chan coomers, to get the images he needs to keep the crosslinked Instagram running. There USED to be a crosslinked twitter as well, but it died in April 2019(shortly before I showed up, around the time I was planning to leave the Daria Fandom)so that's not relevant her.e
Intagram is a site that's been closely monitored by corporate folks for several years, and it's no surprise. It's been a big deal the last decade. Dan Mandel should be able to do alot of the leg work here.
Target: 1500 followers.
4. Dan Vs Fanzone Deviantart
www.deviantart.com/dan-vs-fanzone
Deviantart is another one well known by the industry, it was referenced in the original Dan Vs for gods sake. Now, this one is somewhat tricky, because there are ALOT of mostly dead Dan Vs groups from back in the day. But again, in MOST contexts we want one place to focus on, and so the Dan Vs Fanzone linked here is our main target. Submitting art and getting members is important.
Target: ~1000 Members.
5. Twitter. Fucking everything
(but this first twitter.com/VsJerk )
Twitter is the other big one, but unlike DA or Forums or Discord, where you kinda need to gather in one place to get the numbers up, following someone just requires a click. As such, while I encourage you to go to my Fandom Twitter first and foremost.....this is basically just a wildwest. IF IT HAS DAN VS, FOLLOW IT. SOMEONE HAS A DAN VS PFP, FOLLOW IT. ACCOUNT BEEN DEAD FOR 5 YEARS? FOLLOW IT. SOMEONE MENTIONED DAN VS? FOLLOW IT! YOU GET A FOLLOW, YOU GET A FOLLOW, LITERALLY EVERYTHING VAGUELY DAN VS RELATED GETS A FOLLOW! GET THOSE STONKS UP!
Target: 15k for Dan Vs Centric accounts, just boost the most vaguely connected things.
SECONDARY TARGETS
While those are the most important to focus on, there are a few good secondary targets to consider if you want more.
1. Tiktok: One of the Fandom members has a pretty solid one going, uh, that one I guess. vm.tiktok.com/ZMeB5A6NU/
2. Youtube: My Channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCC5JXdaGVXGQDYhLt0HNflQ , and also maybe some of the clip compilation channels and channels that were involved in Phase 1 like Otterpop.
3. Google Trends. GOOGLE DAN VS. GOOGLE IT. SAME IDEA AS THE TWITTER SHIT GOOGLE EVERY COMBINATION OF DAN VS AND SHOW RELATED TERMS YOU CAN!
And of course, everywhere helps. Tumblr ) , Discord ( discord.gg/FtrGgnf ) , 4chan, anywhere, but based on the info provided to me the main targets are our best bet.
DEADLINES:
TECHNICALLY, we don't have one. In practice though, we needed these numbers weeks ago. I know having a deadline motivates people...so....May 6th(the second annual Fandom Day) is the absolute latest. Angel and co can't hold off forever. There's always the possibility it works anyway, but we really gotta pump this shit up for it to work.
I'll try to get a video on this subject out soonish to help spread the word, but I think you get the gist of it.